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Kevyn ([personal profile] kevyn) wrote2007-01-04 01:39 am

When Paganism Ends...

My deep philosophical question for the season:

Is it possible to be an Atheist (or Agnostic), and be a Pagan at the same time?

I don't have an answer, I'm just mulling it over in my mind. I used to think "yes," and identified as such, but since then I've had Pagan friends I trust and respect tell me I can't be both at the same time.

Sorting out belief...

-Hagrid

[identity profile] kevynjacobs.livejournal.com 2007-01-05 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
>So how do they fit in the neopagan world? Perhaps as those who are watching miracles and can tell others about it. As people who can pass "it" on, as people who can help create tradition, help create something that helps those to com

Well, I'm the one being talked about here, so I will own that -- how do *I* it in the neopagan world, if I am beginnning to question the ideas of the supernatural?

I'm beginning to question the ideas of "miracles" as supernatural events, so I find myself isolated further.

[identity profile] kyooverse.livejournal.com 2007-01-05 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL Miracles was just the first word that popped into my head. "Miracles" is subjective -- not objective.

Perhaps that's it... we're talking about all this stuff as if objective when it is not.

What ideas of the supernatural are you questioning?

What kind of paganism are you talking about?

For example, as a kind of pagan (I guess), my practice is not about the supernatural, but the natural world.

And then there was something someone said in response about this being all there is... but that's something that is part of Judiasm. This is heaven; this is hell... make the best and/or worst of it.

I find it miraculous when I am all crazy and out in the would and find myself leaning on a tree and the tree absorbing my crazy energy, grounding me. Yanno?

Also, don't look to isolate yourself either. One doesn't find themselves isolated, but create it. Trust me, I know lots about isolation! *grins*