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More Israeli misbehaviour:
This is not new behaviour on the part of the Israelis. They've been blockading Gaza for some time, not allowing food relief, medical supplies, or fuel in to the territory. They say it's to keep out weapons, but the net effect is a collective punishment inflicted on the people of Gaza, which meets the definition of a war crime. They've also been turning away U.N. human rights envoys and journalists, in an attempt to keep the world unaware of what's actually going on. The blockade is why Israel is just as responsible for the violence, not just Hamas (The Bush White House blames Hamas, but not Israel, for the violence).
Desperate people turn to desperate measures. Israel is trying to blame Gaza's rockets (which killed one person) for the escalation of violence. But it is Israel's behaviour that is absolutely appalling, and it's really starting to piss me off. The Israelis are NOT the good guys here (and neither is Hamas). Sadly, the abused stepchildren of Adolph Hitler have grown up to become abusers themselves. Violence perpetuates.
This coming Saturday, my friend Alex (![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
seespikerun) is organizing a protest here in Bellingham at the U.S. Federal Buiding ( http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=56833142386 ). I plan on being there. The weapons being used to kill Gazans are being supplied by the U.S. government -- our tax dollars -- and this must stop. I plan on writing my congresscritters this week to demand that we stop funding Israeli terrorist organizations like the IDF.
And, on a side note, I must applaud Cynthia McKinney for her attempts to help the Gazan victims of Israeli aggression. I voted for her in this past Presidential election instead of Obama, because I knew she walked the walk, not just talked the talk.
A boat carrying international peace activists, including former Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney, and medical supplies to the embattled Gaza Strip sailed back into a Lebanese port on Tuesday after being turned back and damaged by the Israeli navy, organizers of the trip said. (Read more)
This is not new behaviour on the part of the Israelis. They've been blockading Gaza for some time, not allowing food relief, medical supplies, or fuel in to the territory. They say it's to keep out weapons, but the net effect is a collective punishment inflicted on the people of Gaza, which meets the definition of a war crime. They've also been turning away U.N. human rights envoys and journalists, in an attempt to keep the world unaware of what's actually going on. The blockade is why Israel is just as responsible for the violence, not just Hamas (The Bush White House blames Hamas, but not Israel, for the violence).
Desperate people turn to desperate measures. Israel is trying to blame Gaza's rockets (which killed one person) for the escalation of violence. But it is Israel's behaviour that is absolutely appalling, and it's really starting to piss me off. The Israelis are NOT the good guys here (and neither is Hamas). Sadly, the abused stepchildren of Adolph Hitler have grown up to become abusers themselves. Violence perpetuates.
This coming Saturday, my friend Alex (
seespikerun) is organizing a protest here in Bellingham at the U.S. Federal Buiding ( http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=56833142386 ). I plan on being there. The weapons being used to kill Gazans are being supplied by the U.S. government -- our tax dollars -- and this must stop. I plan on writing my congresscritters this week to demand that we stop funding Israeli terrorist organizations like the IDF.And, on a side note, I must applaud Cynthia McKinney for her attempts to help the Gazan victims of Israeli aggression. I voted for her in this past Presidential election instead of Obama, because I knew she walked the walk, not just talked the talk.
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and too bad obama's already said several times before that israel is our "greatest ally"... bullshit, fuck israel if they're gonna do this shit.
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In one word - bullshit. Read the news carefully, not only the parts that you want to see.
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This isn't about Israel defending itself... this is RETIRBUTION. Collective punishment. And War Crimes.
Gaza has become an equivalent to the Warsaw Ghetto over the past few months, and I don't use that analogy lightly.
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And until recently, Israel has been engaging in a full-out blockade against the people of Gaza, including blocking food and medical supplies.
The Israeli government is committing war crimes against Gaza, and must be stopped.
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This is a very cynical move on the part of the Israeli government. The supplies were only let in after world opinion turned against Israel. A token gesture does not make forgivable or undo the damage of the blockade.
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Now to the second, and most important question - when you criticize Israel, I presume that you compare it to some real, non-imaginary "better" country. Tell me please, what other country in the world supplies food and fucking electricity to the country that they are officially at war with !?
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Erm, hance the rest of the response. ^^;;;
A 48 hour cease-fire's been put on the table ... may that actually happen.
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You clearly are biased in favour of Israeli actions, which is your prerogative, and I presume you are unwilling or unable to look at the issue from a larger perspective. As such, I fail to see how this exchange serves any purpose, other than to start an argument.
I stand by my statement: the Israeli blockade of Gaza is a war crime.
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Perhaps if you take a quick look at a list of countries engaging in an Apartheid~style social system, you can easily find the answers to your question.
Also, you can look at the example of Venezuela (and Citgo) for an answer to your question. Venezuela has been supplying oil to Americans in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic states for years, despite incidents in which we break diplomatic relations and recall ambassadors during the (presumably CIA-funded) attempt to overthrow Venezuela's democratically elected government.
But please, don't cloud the issue with facts. :/
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Meanwhile, you have conveniently skipped over the first part of my answer, which was probably the far more accurate reply to your question. It consists of the mention of countries which engage in Apartheid behavior, comparable to the behavior of Israel.
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Israeli's just don't seem to get it, why everyone is so angry at them.
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You (and the article you gave a link to) said it yourself! That's the whole point. Profit is not necessarily measured in dollars. At the same time, there is no profit whatsoever to Israel from supplying water and electricity to Gaza. Yet we continue to do this, out of purely humanitarian cause, even though they keep firing rockets at us. And you still did not gave me a single example of any other country doing so. And while we are on the subject, maybe you can provide me an example of another country that PHONES citizens on the other side before bombing ammunition warehouses in order to ensure that no civilians are harmed !?
In fact, each and every Israeli solder and commander should be given Nobel peace prize for the way we conduct warfare and risk our own lives in order not to harm civilians on the other side.
As for the "first part" - you can compare anything to anyone, but it does not make it true. I can compare Britney Spears to Mark Knopfler, but it won't make her singing sound better.
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Making a patently untrue statement like that is what I call Chutzpah.
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If you think that the fact they lost in a war gives them a right to fire rockets at us you surely would not object to some Japanese guy destroying your house and killing you, wouldn't you ?
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To use your phrase: Bullshit.
Israel stole the land. Now there is war. Simple as that.
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In the aftermath of the WWII the world map changed quite significantly as you probably learned in the high school. But this is not important. This whole "historical right to that land" argument is meaningless.
Are you 100% sure that Americans have historical right to the land your house is built on ? I doubt so.
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In 1967, Israel also conquered Gaza and the West Bank. They have no country, because they are occupied by a hostile force: Israel.
Israel is the conqueror. Israel is the oppressor. The Palestinians are the victims.
> Are you 100% sure that Americans have historical right to the land your house is built on ? I doubt so.
No, we don't. What was done to the Native Americans was wrong, just as what was done to the Palestinians was wrong. But the colonial conquering of North America is an irrelevant side detail.
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I am not your friend.
> you can't believe it when they see it on the news
The mainstream U.S. news is biased. I rarely believe it as unbiased truth. I read the European, Israeli, and Middle Eastern press in order to get all viewpoints.
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In that case, when US cease to exist you will probably have the right to criticise Israel.
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