As soon as I saw the headline on Drudge, I knew it was the beginning of the end. Sure, Drudge sensationalizes comments like Gov. Rick Perry's, who was probably just making empty threats to Washington D.C..
But the cat's out of the bag. Texas mythology has long held that the Lone Star State, as a former independent republic, could return to that status if it so desired. And I'll be VERY interested to see how the threat plays to Texans' ears, as well as the rest of the country. It may just get some people thinkin'...
For well over a decade, I've been predicting that the United States could go the way of the Soviet Union, the way Canada almost went (and may still). It's difficult to hold a large country together, especially if the central government goes bankrupt -- which may yet happen to the U.S.A. If it makes economic sense, mark my words, this country WILL disintegrate.
Perry, by making his comments, has broached a taboo subject in American political discourse that has stood since the American Civil War/War of Northern Aggression: Secession.
If the right wingers and Fox News harp on this endlessly, the wedge between Red State and Blue, between Democrat and Republican, could be driven in deeper. The country is beginning to fragment in some very fundamental ways, and the election of a black man as President is shaking the nation's roots far more than many Northern Progressives realize. There's a deep discontent in the country among the Southern, white, conservative, Christian working class. They see their very way of life under threat, from blacks, from immigrants, from gays, from Wall Street, from decaying morals. They sense that Washington D.C. no longer serves their interests.
That's a very powerful motivator for breaking away.
Now, I know my friends in Texas might say there's no way it could happen. And non-Texans might be very offended that I think the United States could break apart. But hear me out:
Texas has seceded before. It could do it again. And if it makes ECONOMIC sense to do so, it will.
And if it does, watch how quick Hawai'i follows suit.
But the cat's out of the bag. Texas mythology has long held that the Lone Star State, as a former independent republic, could return to that status if it so desired. And I'll be VERY interested to see how the threat plays to Texans' ears, as well as the rest of the country. It may just get some people thinkin'...
For well over a decade, I've been predicting that the United States could go the way of the Soviet Union, the way Canada almost went (and may still). It's difficult to hold a large country together, especially if the central government goes bankrupt -- which may yet happen to the U.S.A. If it makes economic sense, mark my words, this country WILL disintegrate.
Perry, by making his comments, has broached a taboo subject in American political discourse that has stood since the American Civil War/War of Northern Aggression: Secession.
If the right wingers and Fox News harp on this endlessly, the wedge between Red State and Blue, between Democrat and Republican, could be driven in deeper. The country is beginning to fragment in some very fundamental ways, and the election of a black man as President is shaking the nation's roots far more than many Northern Progressives realize. There's a deep discontent in the country among the Southern, white, conservative, Christian working class. They see their very way of life under threat, from blacks, from immigrants, from gays, from Wall Street, from decaying morals. They sense that Washington D.C. no longer serves their interests.
That's a very powerful motivator for breaking away.
Now, I know my friends in Texas might say there's no way it could happen. And non-Texans might be very offended that I think the United States could break apart. But hear me out:
Texas has seceded before. It could do it again. And if it makes ECONOMIC sense to do so, it will.
And if it does, watch how quick Hawai'i follows suit.
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And yes, Hawai'i has wanted to secede ever since they were annexed.
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It doesn't make sense NOW. My point is, if at any time it did make sense -- like the federal government going bankrupt -- it might.
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Not to mention that that majority of Texans don't support succession. Just the crazy loud ones.
I agree, this country will discinigrate someday. All civilizations do in their own way. I just don't think that now, after all the teabagging nonsense, that this is a real threat at the moment.
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What interests me is that the taboo has been broken, and that Secessionist talk has re-entered the national political discussion.
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1. It is ALSO written into the TX state constitution—that breath-taking exercise in militant bureaucratic hickism—that the state can likewise split into five states. My part wouldn't hesitate to say "Fuck y'all, we're Americans!/¡Encabronense, somos Americanos!" And if you think the US Gov't would allow blowhard Texas dipshits to take Ft. Bliss with it, you're crazy.
2. Independence means massive amounts of crushing per capita debt because you have to do it all yourself. And Texans are, for the most part, goddamned "I got mine, y'all can go to hell" fools who will do anything to shift the financial burden onto someone else. They aren't willing to afford being an independent, bankrupt Banana Republic of rampant cronyism.
3. Mexico's military both could and would—even in it current narco-predicament—run roughshod over their asses. And I'd laugh mine off to see it!
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You're right. The pro-secessionists aren't taking that fact into account, are they?
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What about the residents?
This morning while listening to Stephanie Miller's show, one caller, a Texan with a very thick accent, said that Gov. Perry an idiot. One LJer from Dallas feels the same.
Considering that Gov. Hair Spray or Gov. Good Hair (not my description) probably will not be a Gov. for very long and is essentially playing to his rabid base, most of whom probably don't live in the urban areas, I don't see Texas seceding anytime.
Finally, being a drama queen knows no gender, sexual orientation, political party, etc.
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Amen to that!
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For the most part they assume that Day 1 in .tx would be the same as Day -1. "WE have oil, ports, NASA, and military bases". Uh - yeah about that. Since almost all of that are federally funded and operated, what you MIGHT end up with is a lot of empty buildings and concrete. "Well, we also have a lot of high-tech"... Yeah - who are there because of tax shelters that will no longer apply in the .tx world.
Good luck with that.
While Texas IS a loaner state (at the MOMENT --- they get 96% of what they put in, which is even money in my book), they will have to immediately create an entire federal government's worth of services (military for one) out of nothing.
What's most hilarious is that the shortage of people to DO everything that those who will "emigrate" will NOT be made up by "legal" immigrants. What WILL happen is a HUGE influx from the South to their ranks to take those not-quite menial jobs that have to go fulfilled. That would require a FAR more liberal immigration policy than they have now, and the ensuing reality of culture and language issues that can't be overturned by fiat or in any short order.
Texas would essentially become a Spanish-speaking country, with closer ties to Mexico than the US.
Which - given the people who are bellowing about Texas' "right" to secede and their "reasons" why this would be preferable than remaining part of the US - generates fodder for becoming the largest case of self-inflicted schadenfreunde the world has ever experienced.
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If Texas were to secede, then the US has a veto-proof majority in both the House and Senate... :-)
I'm liking this idea MORE and MORE.
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"Sarah - given your and your husband's connections to the AK secessionist movement, what advice can you offer to Gov. Perry and the people of Texas?"
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LOL good question, tho!
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