Just for the record...

[kevyn]

Very few things piss me off like saying to me "I will pray for you." Don't you fucking dare you delusional condescending PRICK!

Let me be LOUD AND CLEAR here: I believe that if you believe there is some sort of invisibly sky being called "God" that listens to your prayers and directs the world, or that your "ghost" will somehow get to play with this God forever and ever in a happy place called "heaven," and your dead grandparents' ghosts and the ghost of that puppy that died when you were 7 will be there to keep you company forever and ever, then you are a delusional child who can't face the realities of the world without illusions like "Santa Claus" or "Jesus."

Grow up, people!

Sure, you have the right to believe in whatever religion you want. Just as I have the right to think you are mentally ill or worse, and hold you in contempt, because you think invisible people are watching out for your well-being.

And so what if 90% of people believe in this "God" delusion... 90% of people believeing in something doesn't make it real. That's called a "mass delusion."

I'm sick and tired of pussy-footing around religious people and holding my tongue. Enough. If you believe in "God," then I hold you in contempt of reality. And I will tell you so.

Comments

[gmjambear]

No argument here.

[man-of-snows.livejournal.com]

Is this in reference to Red Square today? SInce I am a polytheist, do you hold me in multiple contempt? :)

[kevynjacobs.livejournal.com]

> Is this in reference to Red Square today?


No, was Bible Jim there? No, my next door neighbour hit me with it at just the wrong moment today, which prompted a rant.

> SInce I am a polytheist, do you hold me in multiple contempt? :)

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. (How many gods do you worship?) ;-)

[man-of-snows.livejournal.com]

It depends on who wants something. I have totem spirits, spirits that help me with divination, spirits that help me with healing and herb work and some that I bargain with on a regular basis. This excludes the three main deities that I serve. It is a full house over here.

I think Bible Jim was on campus today. I don't have time to do more than attend class on tuesdays and thursdays. Are you back in school now?

[kevynjacobs.livejournal.com]

> Are you back in school now?

THAT... is a surprisingly complicated question. Yes and no. Yes, I have been attending classes for 2 days now. But I'm not registered yet. Bureaucratuc hold-up in Financial aid. Just two more quarters of this, I keep telling myself, just two more...

[kadyg.livejournal.com]

I entirely agree with your overall point. However. Seeing as how I'm in the vast minority religion-wise with my family, I try to take "I'll pray for you" in the spirit I hope it's intended. IOW: "I'll be sending positive thoughts and energy into the Universe on your behalf."

Of course, that all depends on context:
Me: I'm having rough day. I chopped off my thumb, my cat died and I think the chicken I just ate was bad.
Them: I'll pray for you.
Me; Thanks for the thought.

Or -
Me: I'm gay/pagan/poly/liberal/whatever.
Them: I'll pray for you.
Me: Fuck you.

So I guess YChristanMV and that should probably be taken into consideration.

[kevynjacobs.livejournal.com]

> Me: I'm gay/pagan/poly/liberal/whatever.

> Them: I'll pray for you.

> Me: Fuck you.

LOL!

Thanks for the laugh.

That was just being rhetorical when you said the cat died, right? ;-)

[kadyg.livejournal.com]

>That was just being rhetorical when you said the cat died, right? ;-)
Right. Both cats are alive and vocal.

So if I believe in the Goddess Delusion am I still on the shit list?

[kevynjacobs.livejournal.com]

> So if I believe in the Goddess Delusion am I still on the shit list?
Only if you start telling me "I'll pray for you."

[man-of-snows.livejournal.com]

At some point, I WILL make a radical faery coffe klatch. I also intend to come over and rough you up for good measure!

[kevynjacobs.livejournal.com]

Sounds like a plan! Wish you could see me in the Black Leather and Pink Crinoline outfit I'm wearing this weekend at VGBG!

[bluebear2.livejournal.com]

What is VGBG?

[kevynjacobs.livejournal.com]

Vancouver Green Body Gathering. Annual Radical Faerie Gathering. This weekend is the third year.
http://www.vgbg.net

[that-dang-otter.livejournal.com]

You go girl! I'd pray for you but I can't stop laughing long enough to do it.

Amusing Google search term: "toxic prayer".

[kevynjacobs.livejournal.com]

Cripes... I think I'm becoming a militiant atheist!

I googled the term "toxic prayer," a you suggested. I follow the scientific and skeptical press, so I knew about the research into the possible negative aspects of prayer. But when I found this link in that search, I was very amused: http://gayspirituality.typepad.com/blog/2004/12/toxic_prayer.html